"Let Russia Invade Georgia"

Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) travelled to Florida last week to campaign for the national Democratic ticket led by Senator Barack Obama. Nadler gave a speech urging an audience of mostly Jewish retirees at a synagogue in Boca Raton, Florida to support Obama's bid for the American presidency. Nadler did not expect his off-the-cuff statements about Obama's controversial former pastor from Chicago (the Rev. Jeremiah Wright) and the Russia-Georgia conflict to end up on YouTube. However, Pamela Geller, a pro-McCain conservative blogger who publishes a blog called Atlas Shrugs, recorded Nadler's candid response to skeptical questions from his audience.
Today Fox News anchor Greta Van Susteren and the Associated Press picked up the story of the controversy over Nadler's remarks. Given that today is election day in America, Nadler's comment that Obama "didn't have the political courage" to leave his controversial former church in Chicago received far more attention in the media than his comments related to Russia.
According to the conservative magazine The Weekly Standard, in response to a question about Israel and Iran [audible near the fourth minute of the YouTube recording], Nadler criticized American foreign policy towards Russia. Nadler suggested that if the U.S. wants Russian cooperation on restraining Iranian ambitions to build nuclear weapons, than it needs to reconsider expanding NATO up to Russia's southern borders.
We have not been willing to put our priorities properly. We have not been willing to say ... "Hey Russia, we won't expand NATO into the Ukraine and Georgia, right next to your borders, if you cooperate with us on Iran." ...I think Iran and Israel are a hell of a lot more important than expanding NATO to Russia's borders. Why should we? What do we need it for?
Watch the video of Congressman Nadler's remarks
It remains unclear if Mr. Nadler was speaking solely for himself or if these foreign policy views are typical of his Democratic colleagues in Congress. Both Democrat Senator Barack Obama and Republican Senator John McCain declared in the final 2008 presidential debate that they supported NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia. However, Obama gave no timetable for bringing these former Soviet republics into NATO, while McCain declared that this should happen as soon as possible.
Two weeks ago, speaking to a more friendly audience of Democrat donors in Seattle, Democrat Vice Presidential nominee Senator Joe Biden predicted that Obama would soon be tested by America's rivals abroad after winning the presidency. Without going into too much detail, Biden listed a confrontation with Russia as one possible scenario that would take the measure of the new Obama Administration.
The current Democrat-led Congress, of which Rep. Nadler is a ranking member with a relatively safe seat, received approval ratings in the single digits prior to Election Day, making it even less popular collectively than the Administration of President George W. Bush. Many pundits believe that long established incumbents in both parties could lose their seats. Nonetheless, even if there are surprises on Election Day, history suggest that more than 90% of U.S. Congressional incumbents will likely be returned to office. That total will likely include Rep. Nadler, who represents the boroughs of Manhattan and Brooklyn in New York City.



Comments
A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth. In this case, Nadler is absolutely right, and Spengler of the Asia Times backs him up:
Posted by: Spengler fan | November 4, 2008 12:31 PM
How come Russia blog has not commented on the BBC revelations grudgingly that Georgian forces are suspected of committing war crimes in South Ossetia (which is a no brainier)?
At least someone has brains in the US.
Soviet apparatus as I stated before was an entire Jewish creation from the beginning.
Can anyone name a prominent ethnic Russian Communist philosopher, activist prior to 1917?
I will remind you that Lenin was a quarter Jewish, married to a Jewish wife and spoke Yiddish at home and suspected to be alligned with freemasonry.
As far as Sharansky goes his harsh treatment whilst in the Gulag is a creation of his tribe and operated and ran by them.
Posted by: james | November 4, 2008 5:21 PM
Belive as they say= russia should nuke the rest of the world and then biochemically take over the rest
in one moment in time
Posted by: Bjorn | November 5, 2008 2:15 AM
James,
Enough with the anti-Semitic, LaRouchite rantings. Nadler is right, Israel is more important to America than Georgia. Russia needs some quid pro quo if we're going to stop Iran from nuking Israel and turning much of the Middle East into a radioactive waste with the oil fields completely fenced off and under new Chinese management.
Iran is facing either a Soviet style collapse or war. Once the Politburo picked Gorbachev, the option of war was pretty much foreclosed for the Soviets, and they collapsed, in spite of hard liners attempt to create a Chinese-style economic revival with an authoritarian state intact. Didn't happen.
Iran, meanwhile, at least with its present regime, has no reason for existing other than Islamic Revolution. If the Revolution dies than the regime will eventually fall. As Spengler writes, you know a country is beaten when they start selling off their women, as the Iranian mafia is rumored to be doing in the UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc. Iran couldn't supply the basics to its people when oil was at $145 due to kleptocracy (kind of like early 90s Russia, all the oil money getting whisked out of the country instead of staying inside to the benefit of the population). How can the Islamic regime stay in power if oil drops to $45 a barrel?
Iran's attempt to team up with Venezuela to create a huge speculative bubble in oil prices (I don't think it was the Russians) failed, as all attempts to drive up prices to artificially insane levels must do in any global market. Not even the OPEC cartel could save the Iranians and Chavistas from their greed and stupidity, nor were the Kuwaitis, Saudis and UAEs willing to do it since they depend on U.S. protection from their Shia minorities.
Posted by: Steve J. Nelson | November 5, 2008 2:50 PM
@Steve J. Nelson
Lyndon LaRouche is not an anti-semite. He has plenty of Jews in his organisation and when he mentions senior worms like George Soros or the Rothschild’s he never refers to them as Jews.
I mentioned the Jewish origins of Communism because that is used as reference constantly against Russia.
And as I point out it is an undeniable fact communism was Jewish.
That the evil Russian mass murderers were in fact Jewish.
Any reasonable analysis is thrown out the window and this is used as a pretext.
The west can sponsor terrorism in Russia that they have done since 92 training Chechen militants in Turkey and Bosnia, publish comical cartoon of the Beslan school massacre in the LA Times (theme of dumb Russian bear) and support the dictator of Georgia's blitz on South Ossetia by rewarding him with billions of dollars worth of more weapons and welcomed with open arms by European and US leaders.
And what about Obamas foreign policy advisor Zbig Brezinski advocating the destruction of Russia as laid out in his 97 book The Grand Chessboard.
One of the most common phrases that is used is "soviet policy was just a continuation of Russia imperial policy". No it is not and negates the fact that other imperial powers were vying for land and territory.
Most of the stories if you research and evaluate them in the western press are either bogus or exaggerated
During the recent Georgia crisis Jewish Neocon’s were advocating a nuclear first strike holocaust against Russia.
The truth is Europeans and Americans don’t like Russia so the better Russians realise this and make alliances with Asian and Latin American countries the better.
Posted by: james | November 6, 2008 9:38 AM
I was happy to see the USSR leave Eastern Europe, much less so to see it fall apart. It gave me bad memories of the collapse of the Austro Hungarian Empire and the hell that followed. If that's what Putin meant when he spoke of the "geopolitical tragedy" of the USSR's demise then I agree with him.
Speaking as a purely selfish American, the resurgence of Russia and the probable recovery of much of its former territories need not be such a bad thing. A good firm hand on the trouble making regions, peace and quiet around the energy reserves and a reliable supplier that isn't out to finance world islam, a powerful country that isn't too angelic to defend its own interests, these could be positives for the USA. Right now we have enough problems without dealing with ColdWar2.0.
But these things may well be wishful thinking. It may be that the Russian leaders are too bent on revenge and the Americans too unimaginative to make the grand bargain.
Posted by: armchair pessimist | November 9, 2008 9:05 AM
"If that's what Putin meant when he spoke of the "geopolitical tragedy" of the USSR's demise then I agree with him"
This statement was taken out of context by the western media and given a typical anti-Russian spin.
What Putin and Medvedev has also mentioned since the Georgian crisis is that since the collapse of the USSR 25 million ethnic Russians are outside of Russia in countries that are pretty hostile towards Russians since the collapse of the USSR much like Germans after WW1 this is what he meant by geo-political disaster.
Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 90’s memos and statements by senior US political figures like Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz have made it public policy not to have a strong Russia that can challenge US hegemony.
George Soros and Jeffery Sacks economic shock therapy which he personally made millions of dollars from was designed to destroy the Russian economy.
It is NATO and the US that has been expanding there borders towards Russia, supporting and training Islamic terrorism inside it’s own borders and in Central Asia and hyping up a supposed threat.
Moscow’s primary concern is not the establishment of its former Russian empire but safety of its citizens which they probably rightly feel will be attacks to illicit a response from Russia case in point the recent Georgia conflict http://antiwar.com/malic/?articleid=13294.
Do you know who Obama’s senior foreign policy advisor is?
He is the modern day equivalent of Jacob Schiff and we know how that turned out.
Posted by: james | November 9, 2008 4:54 PM
As the price of oil plummets, the Bear may go back over the mountain. If not, the Bear will eat Obama.
Posted by: john | November 13, 2008 6:47 PM
@john
Another retarded statement by a Euro/US Bolshevik facist.
Posted by: james | November 14, 2008 7:17 AM