Putting Things in Perspective

Ossetian survivors of Georgian army attacks on Tshinvali are hiding in the basements of destroyed buildings without food and water
This article will ask and attempt to answer three questions:
1. War in Georgia: Russian aggression against an independent country or an indiscriminate Georgian assault against Ossetians overlooked by the U.S. media?
2. What would the United States have done if a bordering country (let’s say Mexico) slaughtered 1,400 U.S. citizens and 10 U.S. soldiers overnight, leaving U.S. citizens by the tens of thousands without food and water?
3. If ethnic cleansing on Russian borders is none of Russia’s business, and should not result in a Russian military response against the aggressor, how can one explain NATO's bombing and occupation of Serbia in 1999, a country that did not share a common border with the U.S. or other NATO members?

South Ossetian refugees being evacuated on a bus to Russia
1. War in Georgia: Russian aggression against an independent country or an indiscriminate Georgian assault against Ossetians overlooked by the U.S. media?
The Russian media has reported several quotes from South Ossetian refugees who escaped the ruined city of Tshinvali after it was shelled into rubble by Georgian forces on August 8, 2008. The quotes below allege many war crimes and answer this question better than I can.
“They [Georgian troops] gathered the girls like cattle, locked them up in a building, and burnt them alive!”“We personally saw how a Georgian tank ran over an old woman who was running away with two children. They knifed down a year-and-a-half old kid!”
“A tank with a banner ‘Georgian Special Forces’ on its front leveled a memorial cemetery in the yard of secondary school #5…”
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said during a meeting in Kremlin:
“There is no other name but that of genocide to describe the forms the Georgian forces’ action has taken, because these acts have become mass-scale in nature and have been directed against specific people, against the civilian population and against peacekeepers who were carrying out their duties to maintain peace. The information we are receiving attests to the fact that crimes of the most serious kind have been committed: people have been murdered, burned, crushed by tanks, and had their throats cut.”
Former President and current Prime Minister Vladimir Putin added:
"Saddam Hussein, of course, needed to be hanged for destroying several Shiite villages...but (not) the current Georgian leadership, which in less than an hour drove tanks through children and old people and burned people alive in their homes. These leaders need to be protected!"
Every nasty conflict has its share of atrocity stories, but the Western media ought to be investigating these claims to determine the truth. However, Western media outlets seem to have little interest in Russian-language news sources, preferring to accept the briefings delivered in English by Georgian officials and the Georgian President (as if Mr. Saakashvili and his cabinet do not have a dubious record of keeping their promises of ceasefires or making false claims). Keep in mind that 90 percent of the civilian victims of this war are Russian citizens. Since the last civil war in 1992, more than 75 percent of South Ossetia's population has been Ossetian, not Georgian, and most of the population is Orthodox Christian, with ancient historic ties to Russia. This fact take us to the second question:
2. What would the United States have done if a bordering country (let’s say Mexico) slaughtered 1,400 U.S. citizens and 10 U.S. soldiers overnight, leaving U.S. citizens by the tens of thousands without food and water?
I assume that the United States would have destroyed every single landing strip, military plane and aircraft belonging to the aggressor nation within 48 hours of the initial attack. Russia still has not done that. Russia showed restraint from the first day of the conflict. First, Moscow asked the United Nations Security Council to condemn the actions of the Georgian military. Second, Russian leadership demanded that Georgian forces completely withdraw from the disputed territories of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
Besides diplomacy, one other factor limiting the nature of the Russian response is the Russian military itself. While Georgian forces are vastly outnumbered by Russian troops, and were quickly expelled from South Ossetia by overwhelming firepower, the Georgians have received training in in urban combat from U.S. Marines as part of the preparation for their deployment last month to Iraq and Afghanistan. Georgia seems to have no shortage of Soviet-era equipment thanks to well-connected arms dealers in Ukraine. The present Ukrainian government has taken advantage of the Georgian crisis to once again bring up the future status of Russian naval bases in the Crimea. Russia has deployed its Black Sea squadron to enforce a naval blockade, determined to prevent any arms shipments from reaching Georgian ports. Meanwhile, the Russian army has only recently started to receive a trickle of more modern, post-1980s equipment, and all but the most elite units suffer from inadequate training budgets. The Russian Air Force, while quickly assuming superiority over Georgia's tiny air force, does not have GPS or laser guided bombs to strike targets in Georgia without risking considerable damage to neighboring buildings. But there remains a difference between bombing select targets and levelling an entire city with free flight rockets.
While America is not responsible for Saakashvili's foolish decision to turn a low-intensity "frozen conflict" into a full-scale war, America has a duty to restrain its ally. As events on the ground this past week have made clear, without American and NATO support, Georgia has no hope of achieving anything militarily, it can only paint itself once again as a victim of the big bad Russian bear, and try to make the world forget that Saakashvili's government provoked this response.
3. If ethnic cleansing on Russia's borders is none of Moscow’s business, and should not result in a Russian military response against the aggressor, how can one explain NATO's bombing and occupation of Serbia in 1999, a country that did not share a common border with the U.S. or other NATO members?
This question can be best answered by the comment left under the Russia Blog article War in Georgia: Yawns and Kneejerks in America
“…It is very clear that the US is reaping in Georgia what it sowed in Kosovo. Let us review what happened in that conflict. The US attacked a sovereign state, and one that happened to be an ally of Russia, for actions that took place entirely within its own borders, and could in no way able construed as aggression against another state. It devastated the infrastructure of Serbia, seized a piece of its territory, and then elevated Kosovo to the status of an independent puppet state.”
History matters. The Georgian borders, incorporating South Ossetia, were drawn by Joseph Stalin (a Georgian by birth). South Ossetia has always been autonomous, with its own official language, culture, and budget during the days of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. Russian troops have maintained an off and on presence in South Ossetia since 1802. Immediately after the fall of the Soviet Union, South Ossetia declared independence from the Republic of Georgia and showed its desire to join the neighboring Russian region of North Ossetia. Both states are populated by the same people who share a common language, set of customs and history.
Immediately after the break-up of the Soviet Union, Georgia and South Ossetia fought a war that ended in 1992 with Ossetia winning its de facto independence. The 1992 South Ossetian referendum turned out a majority for independence from Georgia where 99 percent of South Ossetian voters supported independence and the turnout for the vote was 95 percent. The referendum was monitored by a team of 34 international observers from Germany, Austria, Poland, Sweden and other countries at 78 polling stations. However, it was not recognized internationally by the United Nations, European Union, Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, NATO, and the Russian Federation. The UN continued to regard South Ossetia as part of Georgia. This “frozen” conflict has been building since Kosovo declared its independence and gained the international recognition, setting an international precedent for South Ossetia to completely breakaway from Georgia.
Joe Mestas, an American citizen from Florida visiting South Ossetia with his family, witnessed everything that has been happening in the region:
“I urge every American to call their Senators, Congressmen, and the White House and tell them that America needs to stop supporting Georgia…what Saakashvili is doing is no better than what Saddam Hussein did. Georgians cut off the water supply a month ago, so people have been without water! Georgian tanks are running over graves!"
Interview with Joe Mestas, a U.S. citizen in South Ossetia
(the interview starts at 0:40, address to Americans starts at 2:50)



Comments
Is the Western media catching on? Time Magazine has an interesting view of this conflict.
Posted by: Craig | August 11, 2008 6:07 AM
What would the U.S. do if a terrorist state were set up on the Mexican border?
As Russian "liberal" Yuliya Latynina writes:
Whenever someone starts telling us about shelling in Tskhinvali, it is important to keep in mind exactly what Tskhinvali is. It is not a city somewhere in the middle of a republic that is being fired upon by saboteurs. On three sides, Tskhinvali is surrounded by Georgian villages. The edge of Tskhinvali is a military outpost. South Ossetian forces fire from there into the Georgian villages, and the Georgians respond with fire of their own. To help keep Georgian fire from hitting civilians in the city, all the South Ossetians would have to do is move their military base forward a couple hundred meters.
But, of course, it is a fundamental principle of terrorists the world over -- set up firing points in civilian areas and then when your enemy fires on you, you gleefully parade the bodies of your own children in front of the television cameras. Kokoity's terrorists are following this same principle. If South Ossetia can in any way be considered a state, it must be considered a terrorist state.
http://www.rferl.org/content/South_Ossetia_Crisis_Could_Be_
Russian_Chance_To_Defeat_Siloviki/1189525.html
Posted by: JTapp | August 11, 2008 6:41 AM
Funny, the S. Ossetian blogging (in Russian) from Tskhinvali doesn't mention water being cut off (though he decries atrocities) and he was able to blog throughout the battles. He has posted some pictures from there. Looks like some burnt up tanks and trees down, but plenty of buildings still standing.
http://rupor-naroda.livejournal.com/
Posted by: JTapp | August 11, 2008 6:49 AM
0811 CST, USA:
It has just been reported via Fox News Network, that Gori, birthplace of Iosif V. Dzhugashvili, has been captured by Russian forces. Next stop: Tbilisi?
Posted by: R.L. | August 11, 2008 9:48 AM
To RL: So you think Fox News knows more truth about all this???
Posted by: James | August 11, 2008 9:59 AM
@JTapp
It was a mass aerial bombardment of the capital not on the border regions with no clear military objectives other than cause a humanitarian disaster. Just like there Israeli advisors do in Gaza and in Lebannon.
Funny she doesn’t mind when Chechen and Kosovo terrorists do that on mass.
In fact they go one step further, they seize and bunker in villages, apartment buildings as cover ensuring a high civilian death toll.
They even kill ethnic Serb/Russian civilians and proclaim that as there own civilian dead.
Georgian troops probably use Georgian nearby villages as a cover
This wasn’t just a bombardment on S Ossetia mercenaries were brought in by sea from Ukraine which consisted of mercs from the baltics and Ukraine. US mercenaries are said to have been captures, one said to be a demolitions expert.
Posted by: james | August 11, 2008 10:42 AM
To James:
No.
I was only pointing to the fact that Russian troops are indeed closing on Tbilisi. Whether reported by Russian, American, British, Georgian, Japanese, or French news sources, the fact remains that Russian troops are about to lay siege to--or assault--Tbilisi.
"Just the facts, man: Just the facts."
--Officer Joe Friday, LAPD
Posted by: R.L. | August 11, 2008 10:43 AM
Russia is the least credible and least humane force in the world. Having exiled its own citizens to various parts of the former Soviet bloc, it uses these people to stake claims on parts of the world that are so obviously not Russian. Is Poland like Russia? Is Ukraine like Russia. I'm pretty confident Georgia is nothing like Russia. The quest for that precious pipeline and the lies it spreads, however, is typically Russian.
Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe | August 11, 2008 8:50 PM
russian media announced that ossetians will bury tens of people today. Where are other 1500 or so bodies?
lies by russian pro -government media...
Posted by: GM | August 12, 2008 11:24 AM
Alright, lets use the Mexico/US example again. If the United States starting issuing passports to Mexican citizens of Tijuana (borders San Diego, CA) and then Tijuana rebelled against Mexico and the US starting bombing Mexico as a result, how would the world feel about us? Be honest: this Russian aggression is about controlling the only oil pipeline into Europe outside of its own borders and flexing its muscle in a region no longer under its direct control. I'm ashamed the United States has not secured our allies' airspace at the very least.
Posted by: ryan | August 12, 2008 5:26 PM
R.L. - Oh, and I don't suppose the Bush Administration is in it for the oil pipeline either, right?
I've seen 2 reports from Americans that were caught in the region when the bombing started and both said that Georgian forces are the aggressor and committing atrocities against civilians. One thanked Russian forces for their HELP.
Posted by: DebbieKat | August 14, 2008 10:47 PM
As an American citizen I am forced to ask myself, why do we always put our nose where it doesn't belong? The first story I heard was that Georgia was the aggressor. If Georgia felt they were big enough and strong enough to shell Tskhinvali, then they should be strong enough to deal with the bloody nose that they gained in return. I don't like these little countries taking on the big ones and then crying that they can't possibly win the fight and they need help.
Posted by: lydia | August 28, 2008 9:58 PM